Most unnoticed change of the Mega is the loss of the ability to fly with five heavy drones. That's going to hurt.

in this thread: a bunch of nerds who hate and fear change

And you could do the same with a dreadnaught.

Doesn't mean it is an optimal choice. Because it isn't.

BSes can be used in nearly any role, but only truly excel in fleet warfare and PvE.

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Best post of the thread. I had no idea that the mega was in such a poor position. 40% less hp 30% less dmg than everything else.

Remember that thing called tiericide? I'm comparing the mega to tier 3s because that's what the ship should be equivalent to post odyssey. Instead it is being effectively gutted.

Also, please look at the Maelstrom's stats before pointing to the resist bonuses. Even Minmatar, characterized by fast, light ships, has a line dps BS. Gallente does not.

Look at active tanked Maelstroms/Rokhs.
Their actual hitpoints are quite low. I don't really care how you reduce the base HP, but having 30-40k more on a ship with a greater tank isn't exactly in line with the whole tiericide thing. I'd much rather see a whole ton of hp come out of the shields, but I know CCP doesn't like to force a playstyle on the users (looking at you shield gankers)

Edited post to be a bit more realistic;
6500 shield, 7000 armor, 7500 hull

That is among the easiest things to solve. Just increase ship base capacitor by about 200 and its all green again.

The Maelstrom also doesn't have the slots to field any resemblance of a decent buffer if you want a big tanks AND mobility AND tackle. And thanks to ASBs, the tank is also neut-proof*
It's basically fixed at that hp level, unless you want to start sacrificing things.

The Hyperion has all of those things, and with 5 mids you can triple rep (LAR/LAR/LAAR) which results in a bigger active tank AND more hp & dps than a Mael/Rokh.

Hybrids already reload in 5 seconds and take up far far less cargo than any other race.
Outside of large+extended fleet situations (ie: pos/cap bashing), how often would you say you have to reload guns mid-fight because you ran out of ammo?

JFC! Where do you all dwell dudes, in Dumbland?
SENTRY DRONES ARE USED IN LARGE FLEET PVP!!!
Those are called slowcats! The carriers with sentries, you know! Not with fighter - their intended weapon - but sentries!

Then stop moving your Domi and dont forget to scoop them drones before you warp. EHP and reps are irrelevant.
Now please, gosu, explain how can I use heavy drones for... well at least for something?

Domi can fill the role of a fleet BS. It can have great sniping ranges (150km with around 600 dps). It can than warp on enemy fleet and with blaster and heavies brawl with em.

The only problem is that fleets need moving, that is the biggest problem with drone boats, sentries dont follow.

Maybe it is time for CCP to look into it.

Here, finally!
At least someone competent finally acknowledged sentries ~could~ be overpowered.
If you dudes spent more time doing PVP instead of super-blobbing, you'd already had a solid working doctrine.

When flying a Battleship for the last 5 years or so, I have exclusively used a blaster Dominix setup, to great success. On small occasions I rock a neut Domi, but 9/10 it's blaster fit.

It's usually rocking:

Electron Blaster Cannon II x 5
Solace RR x1 (spidertank w/mah boys)

Microwarp, web, disruptor, cap booster, and a sebo/eccm/damp depending on its utilization

4x 1600 plates, 2x eanm, 1x dc

3x trimarks

(I guess an extra 50m drone bay for a touch more utility wouldn't go completely amiss, but I think a lot of people aren't realising just what an unpredictable terror the new domi is.)

All heavy drones have the same optimal and falloff ranges, with just their tracking (and damage types/speed) varying. Is there any chance Heavy drones could have thier optimal/falloff boosted to bring them out of Large smartbomb range when coupled with the Domi's new ship bonus to optimal range? It might be OP, but it would be something worth considering to give the domi a true advantage over the geddon.

New version of Mega with 6 slot armor tank, 2 magstabs and both dmg rigs takes it to peak 1340 with Void on overheat (1498 with HH IIs).

Alternatively:

[Megathron, Odyssey]
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
Overdrive Injector System II
Large Ancillary Armor Repairer, Nanite Repair Paste
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II
Damage Control II

100MN Microwarpdrive II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 800
Warp Scrambler II
Stasis Webifier II

Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L
Neutron Blaster Cannon II, Void L

Large Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Large Nanobot Accelerator I
Large Hybrid Burst Aerator I


Hammerhead II x5
Vespa EC-600 x5
Warrior II x5

1253 peak dps, 838 dps w/Null no drones
75.6K EHP, 616 hp/s heated nanite reps (115.4K theory EHP after 8 cycles)
1775 m/s when you floor it

is not bad

Which brings me back to my original point, what did it need 1k extra power grid for?

How much Mega d have dps with 7 neutrons 1 mag and 100 drone bw? Anyone able to calculate?

Taking in consideration this new rof bonus.

Or you run missions in your hyper like I do. The armor rep bonus helps there. Dont just think of the PVP implications of all the ships, there are a lot of people who will only ever use these ships to run level 4 missions